Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki fateh.
some have a notion that there are two words and they are different. Are they ? Really ?
GURbani to mean ALL BANI that is in the Guru Granth sahib Jee and is today our SHABAD GURU..
While GURUbani is meant to convey the actual BANI written ONLY by the Sikh GURUS....and this excludes Bhagat bani, Bani of Sunder Ji, Bhatt Swaiyehs, Bani of Sheikh Farid...
I think it is a MISCONCEPTION to separate the two....I put that there is ONLY ONE - GURBANI and that is ALL that in the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE which is our Shabad Guru. We should NOT try and SEFREGATE the Sikh Gurus from the others...for that would be tantamount to going against our GURU JI, who intentionally "brought all the others on board", placed them on the same TAKHAT as themselves and installed their Bani as well as their own on the Same Shabad GURU Platform of GURU GRANTH JI which is revered by all sikhs as our GURU.
These people are either just playing semantics with words ( IN the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE the words GUR and GURU are interchangeably used..so it can be GURbani and GURUbani ) or they have a hidden agenda to try and separate the Bhagats and others from the GURUS and create an artificial divide and negate the entire work and philosophy of our GURUS.
Its those who are trying to EQUATE whatever is OUTSIDE the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with whatever is INSIDE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is OUR one and ONLY GURU....whatever the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji contains is GURBANI. WHY ? Simply because Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is GURU (Jyot of all ten nanaks and many others whose Bani is contained therein)
However..we have FOUR NANAKS (human Form) Guru Hargobind Ji, Guru Har rai Ji, Guru Harkishn Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji whose "writings/utterances/etc are NOT contained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Inspite of this FACT...the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is still COMPLETE GURU and was GURTA gadhi by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in 1708 at nanded. NO OTHER have this right to gurgadhi/Guruship/Equality.
Banis from OUTSIDE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are used at Khandeh batte dee PAHUL (initiation_ ceremony of KHalsa SINGHS. This PAHUL is ALWAYS given in the TABIAH of the GURU -Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ( Without the GURU Present no such Pahul can take place even if the Panj are ready.
Based on this PAHUL ceremony soem people are trying to EQUATE and raise those "banis" to Level of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - they invented the word "GURU-bani" (coming from the mouth of Guru - that is Guru Gobind Singh Ji to differentiate from the GURBANI in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which is our DEFACTO GURU Jugo jugg Attal. The Banis used at Pahul are holy, and part of the Nitnem of a Singh and in the SRM....BUT they are NOT at PAR with GURBANI of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Secondly these same people then raise another RED HERRING...they come up with the imaginative and seemingly innocent questions like..IF bani of Guru Gobind Singh ji is NOT "Gurbani as per Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji"..then how come BHATT bani written by some bhatts who are NOT GURU are called GURBANI and contained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?? Same goes for Bhagat banis, Farid Banis etc etc.
The Answer to such red herring troublemakers/blasphemers is..Every Single word in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has been put there by GURU ARJUN JI and then by GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. The Mundawni Mh 5 is the SEAL of Guru Ji and 1708 Gurgadhi is by GURU JI.
Whatever GURU JI left outside Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is INTENTIONALLY DONE...whatever writings not accorded GURBANI status no matter who wrote them is also INTENTIONALLY done by GURU JI. Those banis are for the PAHUL Ceremony and for NITNEM. Lets leave them that way.
ONLY the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Rock SOLID and proven with Guru Jis Mundawni Seal and Gurta in 1708....not a single word can be changed or altered even BY the KHALSA PANTH..unlike the SRM/NITNEM etc....which can be changed and has been done before.
some have a notion that there are two words and they are different. Are they ? Really ?
GURbani to mean ALL BANI that is in the Guru Granth sahib Jee and is today our SHABAD GURU..
While GURUbani is meant to convey the actual BANI written ONLY by the Sikh GURUS....and this excludes Bhagat bani, Bani of Sunder Ji, Bhatt Swaiyehs, Bani of Sheikh Farid...
I think it is a MISCONCEPTION to separate the two....I put that there is ONLY ONE - GURBANI and that is ALL that in the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE which is our Shabad Guru. We should NOT try and SEFREGATE the Sikh Gurus from the others...for that would be tantamount to going against our GURU JI, who intentionally "brought all the others on board", placed them on the same TAKHAT as themselves and installed their Bani as well as their own on the Same Shabad GURU Platform of GURU GRANTH JI which is revered by all sikhs as our GURU.
These people are either just playing semantics with words ( IN the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE the words GUR and GURU are interchangeably used..so it can be GURbani and GURUbani ) or they have a hidden agenda to try and separate the Bhagats and others from the GURUS and create an artificial divide and negate the entire work and philosophy of our GURUS.
Its those who are trying to EQUATE whatever is OUTSIDE the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with whatever is INSIDE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is OUR one and ONLY GURU....whatever the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji contains is GURBANI. WHY ? Simply because Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is GURU (Jyot of all ten nanaks and many others whose Bani is contained therein)
However..we have FOUR NANAKS (human Form) Guru Hargobind Ji, Guru Har rai Ji, Guru Harkishn Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji whose "writings/utterances/etc are NOT contained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Inspite of this FACT...the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is still COMPLETE GURU and was GURTA gadhi by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in 1708 at nanded. NO OTHER have this right to gurgadhi/Guruship/Equality.
Banis from OUTSIDE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are used at Khandeh batte dee PAHUL (initiation_ ceremony of KHalsa SINGHS. This PAHUL is ALWAYS given in the TABIAH of the GURU -Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ( Without the GURU Present no such Pahul can take place even if the Panj are ready.
Based on this PAHUL ceremony soem people are trying to EQUATE and raise those "banis" to Level of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - they invented the word "GURU-bani" (coming from the mouth of Guru - that is Guru Gobind Singh Ji to differentiate from the GURBANI in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which is our DEFACTO GURU Jugo jugg Attal. The Banis used at Pahul are holy, and part of the Nitnem of a Singh and in the SRM....BUT they are NOT at PAR with GURBANI of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Secondly these same people then raise another RED HERRING...they come up with the imaginative and seemingly innocent questions like..IF bani of Guru Gobind Singh ji is NOT "Gurbani as per Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji"..then how come BHATT bani written by some bhatts who are NOT GURU are called GURBANI and contained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?? Same goes for Bhagat banis, Farid Banis etc etc.
The Answer to such red herring troublemakers/blasphemers is..Every Single word in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has been put there by GURU ARJUN JI and then by GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. The Mundawni Mh 5 is the SEAL of Guru Ji and 1708 Gurgadhi is by GURU JI.
Whatever GURU JI left outside Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is INTENTIONALLY DONE...whatever writings not accorded GURBANI status no matter who wrote them is also INTENTIONALLY done by GURU JI. Those banis are for the PAHUL Ceremony and for NITNEM. Lets leave them that way.
ONLY the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Rock SOLID and proven with Guru Jis Mundawni Seal and Gurta in 1708....not a single word can be changed or altered even BY the KHALSA PANTH..unlike the SRM/NITNEM etc....which can be changed and has been done before.
GIYANI Ji,
ReplyDeleteIf we look at the grammer of the words GUR and GURU then these two are distict words and can not be interchanged.
This is my understanding as per grammer of the words you can also examine this at your end.
With regards
Prakash.S.Bagga
GIYANI Ji,
ReplyDeleteFrom Gurbani we can see that it is SABADu as GuRoo not SABAD GuRoo.
We should clearly understand the difference in the meaninmgs of the words SABADu and SABAD.
I am sure you are well aware that the word SABAD with a matra of AUKAD under letter D is different from SABAD without matra of Aukad under D.
So it is of great importance to understand the meaning of SABADu.GuRoo. rather than SABAD GuRoo.
Prakash.S.Bagga
GIYANI Ji,
ReplyDeleteI am disappointed to see no response to my posts from your side.
I look forward to your valuable views regarding these posts.
With regards
Prakash.S.Bagga